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09-10-2007, 08:22 AM
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#41 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Media-Master-D
I have been waiting for this too happen for 8 weeks now, finally the cull has begun...
Why is everybody surprised... Matt Cutts gave out the information to directory owners and paid link providers months ago in an article on his blog....
The time has come and relevance is king....
Directories built to drive relevant targetted traffic to websites not pump PR with 0 traffic.
Guess 99% of directories are begining to take a fall....
the magic key you are all looking for is "nofollow" the only problem is that this key is going to make 99% of directories completly irrelevant to customers hence wiping out those PR pumpers...
GAME SET MATCH - BIG G!
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Dude you need to get your % rt.,the facts are that some directories have been more focussed on serp then pr. witch is the power of content, witch is the power of each directory. Your rt. in saying pumping pr. will jeprodize your directory, but thats not 90% of all directory on the board come on. matt cutts was saying its better to work the search for high serp and be seen than pump pr..........Any seo will say that. 
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09-10-2007, 10:16 AM
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Rankland you brought a smile to my face, here`s poor little me building a world class directory on a really really good domain name only to realise whats content....lol joke.Content won`t save you if your breaching googles terms and if you get the knock let me know how long it takes you to get back into google....trust is a very hard thing to rebuild once lost....as anybody knows from life. Oh just to note some will get away with what there at scott free because of the level of trust they have....
Rankland I know exactly what these directories have been doing and how they have been doing it.....and why they have been hit....
Its not only directories in the firing line.....of what looks like intially human reviewers not algo`s.....it`s just the start.
Two wolves on a hill over a field of sheep, younger wolf says to the older wolf lets run down there and grab one of those sheep....older wolf says no lets walk down there and grab all of those sheep...there`s no fast track to success there`s just lots and lots of little steps that make a journey....dude.
PS. I got a list of supposed "authority directories" from this site about 24 hrs before bannings, went to aviva to have a look around and thought to myself hell these guys are in blatant breach of matt`s article, then I thought if there was a no follow tag on my listing why would I submit my site here....and thats the answer. 24hrs later they were being buried....
Last edited by Media-Master-D; 09-10-2007 at 10:25 AM..
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09-10-2007, 11:11 AM
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#43 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Media-Master-D
Rankland you brought a smile to my face, here`s poor little me building a world class directory on a really really good domain name only to realise whats content....lol joke.Content won`t save you if your breaching googles terms and if you get the knock let me know how long it takes you to get back into google....trust is a very hard thing to rebuild once lost....as anybody knows from life. Oh just to note some will get away with what there at scott free because of the level of trust they have....
Rankland I know exactly what these directories have been doing and how they have been doing it.....and why they have been hit....
Its not only directories in the firing line.....of what looks like intially human reviewers not algo`s.....it`s just the start.
Two wolves on a hill over a field of sheep, younger wolf says to the older wolf lets run down there and grab one of those sheep....older wolf says no lets walk down there and grab all of those sheep...there`s no fast track to success there`s just lots and lots of little steps that make a journey....dude.
PS. I got a list of supposed "authority directories" from this site about 24 hrs before bannings, went to aviva to have a look around and thought to myself hell these guys are in blatant breach of matt`s article, then I thought if there was a no follow tag on my listing why would I submit my site here....and thats the answer. 24hrs later they were being buried....
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Your rt. in the sence of trying to buy your way to the top might buy your trouble later, but i was refering to 90% of all directories. So what im thinking is how can sites on the board recieve inbound links if this is the case. What would happen to google popularity? or traffic for that matter.... i dont understand. 
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09-10-2007, 11:44 AM
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#44 (permalink)
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Listen I dont want to slate anybodies business, they spent time building it and its not a nice feeling to see it disappear. But if your going to build sites build them for your visitors not for serp`s.
Natural linking, if your purchasing links from other sites get "nofollow" tags.
PR pumping your site or your customers sites is endangered. Building directories build your content around the sites you allow into your directory.
Dont be greedy it pays in the long run.
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09-10-2007, 12:21 PM
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#45 (permalink)
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PR is not the be all and end all of a site....and google has spoken in order to stop the PR ranking system having no relevance because it can be gamed with enough money. We must remember googles foundation of business is the pagerank formula, and the guardians are showing there prepared to defend it - In my opinion....
Disclaimer:
I am not an SEO or a lawyer....just tend to rant from time to time...lol
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09-11-2007, 12:56 AM
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i have seen a user on dp saying himself as owner of aviva he stated that he is no sad for what google is doing but he is thinking for those people who bought such costly links on his directory? is n't it amazing?
But i will say only that google should not act like this with directory owners and if google continued to do so ...it may loose a lot of users becoz every one will start to consider pr of some other search engine and we will be happy if yahoo or altavista launch such a programme...becoz they may get a lot of publicity if they did so in such a situation..
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09-22-2007, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by eXweso
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May be because of the patrons of Aviva directory un-subscribing themselves from it due to the directory getting banned from Google.
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09-22-2007, 06:42 AM
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#49 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Mark07
May be because of the patrons of Aviva directory un-subscribing themselves from it due to the directory getting banned from Google.
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Thats the biggest crap I have ever heard!
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09-22-2007, 08:29 AM
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well thats a news
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09-22-2007, 12:50 PM
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#51 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media-Master-D
Listen I dont want to slate anybodies business, they spent time building it and its not a nice feeling to see it disappear. But if your going to build sites build them for your visitors not for serp`s.
Natural linking, if your purchasing links from other sites get "nofollow" tags.
PR pumping your site or your customers sites is endangered. Building directories build your content around the sites you allow into your directory.
Dont be greedy it pays in the long run.
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For one serp has 0 to do with pr. it has alot to do with great content so i think were talking about the samething. You dont become #1 serp, because you have the biggest pr. you have the strongest content in those key words this is how you acheive serp  . 
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09-22-2007, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by eXweso
What the hell is goin on...Aviva directory has come down to 1700 pages from 15000 pages at Google!
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so long as aviva indexed by google, thats fine with me, be it hundreds or thousands. Those pages could be in supplementary temporarily.
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09-23-2007, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by rankland
Your rt. in the sence of trying to buy your way to the top might buy your trouble later, but i was refering to 90% of all directories. So what im thinking is how can sites on the board recieve inbound links if this is the case. What would happen to google popularity? or traffic for that matter.... i dont understand. 
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Google's move is brilliant for them (and partly why their stock hit an all-time high late last week).
Not only are they making the playing field more fair whereby the quality of the site determines it's rankings instead of link purchases (i.e. fake popularity), but they know webmasters will have to rely more on google adwords to be seen high up in the SERPs unless and until their sites earn their way there.
The game has shifted from SEO to traffic. "Traffic-friendly" is what will work.
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09-23-2007, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mauiman
Google's move is brilliant for them (and partly why their stock hit an all-time high late last week).
Not only are they making the playing field more fair whereby the quality of the site determines it's rankings instead of link purchases (i.e. fake popularity), but they know webmasters will have to rely more on google adwords to be seen high up in the SERPs unless and until their sites earn their way there.
The game has shifted from SEO to traffic. "Traffic-friendly" is what will work.
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Ive been saying this all along for two yrs when everybody was saying the same 10 directories were the strongest links in the forums, and my directory had 10 #1 serp results and never left for a yr 1/2. I was hoping something like this would happen, because content is so important when submitting a link. I do believe that you will see alot of websites in genral submitting to a directory for the rt reasons in the next yr, and your rt it will have to be earned. 
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09-25-2007, 04:51 AM
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#55 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by eXweso
Thats the biggest crap I have ever heard!
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Well doesn't sound that crappy to me. It was just a thought.
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09-27-2007, 12:03 PM
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09-29-2007, 01:36 AM
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#57 (permalink)
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I think rankings will return back to normal in a few weeks time. This is just google trying to scare everyone from buying links.
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