Unlimited VS Ridiculous - Page 2

Charles S · 10-20-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by websiteguy

thats a marketing gimmick . Fair host offer you what they have in their pocket.
best way to check limits of unlimited hosts is to check there terms and condition.
you will find limits there.

Notably, there usually aren't space/bandwidth limits (most hosts do actually keep to their promise), rather... If you hit a certain CPU limit, you'll be gone.

websiteguy · 10-20-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles S

Notably, there usually aren't space/bandwidth limits (most hosts do actually keep to their promise), rather... If you hit a certain CPU limit, you'll be gone.

yes there is buddy, the inode thing is Diskspace limits and cpu limit is a plus.

Charles S · 10-22-2009, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by websiteguy

yes there is buddy, the inode thing is Diskspace limits and cpu limit is a plus.

Huh?

If a host says they're offering unlimited disk space/bandwidth... They're legally obligated to do so. They are however welcome to apply other restrictions.

frih · 10-22-2009, 03:06 AM

Its a marketing technique to attract people, nothing is unlimited. They add other issues to it like cpu usage and so.

SiberForum · 10-22-2009, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by frih

Its a marketing technique to attract people, nothing is unlimited. They add other issues to it like cpu usage and so.

Almost each web hosting company trying to offer that. I suppose that is more hysteric then idea

martyan · 10-22-2009, 06:53 AM

I would say NEITHER. But If there is an alternative between unlimited and ridiculous, I would rather believe in unlimited offer.

There are quite reliable companies, opffering unlimited space and bandwidth and explain clearly how does it work within the terms of service.

Here is the quote from webhostgiant's tos:

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Originally Posted by webhostgiant.com

start you out with 1000 MBs of space. Once you approach 90% of its use, simply request additional space from Support. WebhostGIANT will then add another 1000 MBs of space, free of charge.

CyberWizard · 11-04-2009, 08:58 PM

Yes, but how long will they do that for? Forever ?

DH - Tristan Perry · 11-08-2009, 02:29 PM

Both are just marketing gimmics. Unlimited offers, and extreme overselling, just lie/mislead people to get extra customers.

CyberWizard · 11-08-2009, 02:54 PM

Here is the opinion of Brent Oxley (owner of HostGator) on this matter:

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"The majority of hosting companies began offering unlimited disk space and bandwidth plans months ago, if not years ago. They might not say “unlimited” but with the size of current plans being offered there’s no difference. The top hosting companies could 100x their current offerings and it wouldn’t be any different than what they offer now."

DH - Tristan Perry · 11-08-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberWizard

Here is the opinion of Brent Oxley (owner of HostGator) on this matter:

I sort of agree, but I still feel it's mis-leading customers since - as we know - it's impossible to offer unlimited disk-space and bandwidth.

So yeah, in *practise* it works out okay, but I'm just a tad dubious about promoting "unlimited" offerings since it's mis-leading.

I've seen quite a few people get surprised when their $x per month host has suspended their site after "only" using (say) mid-high xx GB bandwidth.

Some people truly believe that "unlimited" offerings exist, and I think this is a bit mis-leading.

CyberWizard · 11-08-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DH - Tristan Perry

I sort of agree, but I still feel it's mis-leading customers since - as we know - it's impossible to offer unlimited disk-space and bandwidth.

So yeah, in *practise* it works out okay, but I'm just a tad dubious about promoting "unlimited" offerings since it's mis-leading.

I've seen quite a few people get surprised when their $x per month host has suspended their site after "only" using (say) mid-high xx GB bandwidth.

Some people truly believe that "unlimited" offerings exist, and I think this is a bit mis-leading.

Although I do think that advertising unlimited everything is scammish, I can say that there are several companies I have used for hosting in the past and never had an issues with them saying I was using too many resources.

DH - Tristan Perry · 11-08-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberWizard

Although I do think that advertising unlimited everything is scammish, I can say that there are several companies I have used for hosting in the past and never had an issues with them saying I was using too many resources.

I agree fully. I've heard nearly all good things from HostGator, who are obviously one of the biggest unlimited hosts.

I'm not a fan of the business model, but it certainly can be very successful

CyberWizard · 11-08-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DH - Tristan Perry

I agree fully. I've heard nearly all good things from HostGator, who are obviously one of the biggest unlimited hosts.

I'm not a fan of the business model, but it certainly can be very successful

Yea but you have to remember that HostGator was one of the most popular even before they started offering everything unlimited.

RDragos · 11-11-2009, 10:48 AM

I'm using hostgator's "unlimited" host for a couple of months, and I can say it's working ok. No lag when transferring files, no lag on site-loading.

ldcdc · 11-11-2009, 02:18 PM

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Yea but you have to remember that HostGator was one of the most popular even before they started offering everything unlimited.

Indeed, and a lot of the hosts that now are seen as bad for offering unlimited, were getting negative reviews before they went unlimited. It's not the unlimited that makes or breaks a hosting company, it's the management of the business and servers that do it.

RDragos · 11-12-2009, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ldcdc

Indeed, and a lot of the hosts that now are seen as bad for offering unlimited, were getting negative reviews before they went unlimited. It's not the unlimited that makes or breaks a hosting company, it's the management of the business and servers that do it.

And the support department. I had a hosting package from a local company from Romania, and one of their servers crashed, and it took them 3 months to recover my data and put everything back. And in this whole time they didn't tell any news to the users, so I just had to wait for a miracle. No I'm using HostGator and their support line is very good.

Euthanas · 11-13-2009, 08:09 AM

If to choose between unlimited and ridiculous I would rathe get unlimited, even knowing that everything has its end.

About webhostgiant.com and their unlimited offers - the company made such offer because they know - no site based on the shared account will exceed even 100GB (not telling about offered 1000) and thus it is a trick. Even if I know this is a reliable company.

Hoever such tricks are better than shred accounts which nominally include more resources than even a dedicated servers of the same company - ridiculous!

So, between these evils I would choose the lesser which is unlimited o_O!

CyberWizard · 11-17-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Euthanas

About webhostgiant.com and their unlimited offers - the company made such offer because they know - no site based on the shared account will exceed even 100GB (not telling about offered 1000) and thus it is a trick. Even if I know this is a reliable company.

Why would no site exceed 100 GB?