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Old 09-28-2004, 01:53 PM
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What browsers do you test your sites in?

I'm getting ready to redesign some sites and I want to test them in multiple browsers. Unfortunately, there are about 70 sites and I can't afford the time to test them for every browser.

I plan to use the w3c checker and validate the sites; I figure that will clear up most of the compatibility issues, but I'd like some advice on which browsers to test the sites in.

Like a said, I can't spend a huge amount of time on this so I'm looking for a short list of maybe 5 browsers. I'm thinking IE 5-6,Netscape 7, and Firefox. This make sense to you guys?

What browsers do you test your sites in?
 
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Old 09-28-2004, 03:48 PM
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I'm going to test mine in IE,Firefox,Netscape,and Opera.I dont bother about the versions,I'll test it on whatever I have on my system
 
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Old 09-29-2004, 03:06 AM
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A redesign eh? Well don't the current sites have logs showing the what browsers are used by people arriving at the site?
 
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Old 09-29-2004, 03:46 AM
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IE (win/linux/mac), Firefox/Mozilla (win/linux/mac), Opera, Safari
 
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Old 09-29-2004, 06:41 AM
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I really think it depends on the site and client. I have had many clients tell me that they only care about IE users and others that they need to tested for all browsers. Whatever that means. I usually get a group of family and friends that have different operating systems and browsers to test for me after the initial testing. I can usually get them to commit a few hours as needed and in return I give them a $50 - $100 gift card to best buy, target, walmart or something like that depending on the project.

Not only do I get the web site tested I also get usability tested as well. They report on what is not working as well as what was confusing. Not only does this save me and my staff plenty of time but it doesn't break the bank.

My PC users test
IE 5 and 6
NN 7
Firefox
AOL

My MAC users test
IE 5
NN 6
AOL

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Old 09-29-2004, 06:56 AM
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Old 09-29-2004, 07:09 AM
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I'm just glad NN4 is pretty much gone.

I usually test in:
IE 5 and 6
NN7
Firefox
AOL

The family/friends testing has proven to be invaluable for me as well.

I also do some testing with graphics turned off. I like to make sure that most sites can be used even if the images aren't showing.
 
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Old 09-29-2004, 09:11 AM
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I usually test in IE6, Firefox and Opera.
 
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Old 09-29-2004, 11:21 AM
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thanks for the input, guys.
 
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Old 09-29-2004, 11:48 AM
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Firefox, then backcheck to fix the standards issues in IE.
 
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Old 10-02-2004, 02:50 AM
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Konqueror, Mozilla, Opera.
 
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Old 10-03-2004, 12:52 PM
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I used to use only IECapture but it's down for a while now... other than that just IE6 and firefox
 
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Old 10-08-2004, 05:06 AM
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Old 10-11-2004, 10:55 AM
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Old 11-26-2004, 06:17 AM
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Old 11-27-2004, 09:24 PM
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Which browsers to use

To my knowledge Opera only has one cross browser issue, and that is with the noscript sections. I've written a short script which fixes all of the Opera compatibility issues. Once that script is implemented, I've found that testing on Firefox (mozilla), Explorer, and Internet Explorer is enough to deal with over 90% of your visitors. When testing with mozilla (firefox) be sure to view your page with and without javascript, with and without graphics, and with and without stylesheets.

W3C Validation is nice, but doesn't ensure complete compatibility with all browsing technologies because there are some errors in their DTD's for xhtml 1.1 which were found using the XML Verification service on my site. An interesting note was that most browsers don't process DTD's and to ensure cross browser compability when using your own dtd's you need to use W3C's public identifier, and replace the url with the link to your own DTD's (with any modularization, customization, and bugfixes that you require). Lastly for optimal linux support you should check your site with KDE's built in browser, konquerer. After testing on konquerer I've found many of the builtin CSS colors were not supported, for example HighlightText does not appear to be properly supported.

There is only one failsafe way of testing your website, is to use statistics software such as awstats which reports what browsers your visitors are using, and then test your site using the browsers your visitors are using. There is no way to guarantee your site will display correctly on all browsers, but if you keep your design simple, follow the standards, and test it on the most used browsers (Explorer, Netscape, Mozilla (Firefox), and Opera) its likely your site will 'eventually' be displayed correctly on all browsers.

Also, try to use tags the way they were meant to be used. Using p for paragraphs, table for tables of data, div's to layout the parts of your page, span's for altering text, etc. All browser technology is developed to implement tags based on their meaning and purpose. When you 'abuse' features of tags, for example, using tables for your layouts your taking a big risk of your site not displaying correctly in future browsers. Applying non-standard bug-fixes is also counter-productive because you never know when certain browsers will re-implement the feature correctly, for example, scrolling data (tbody section) in xhtml tables.
 
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Old 03-20-2005, 05:05 PM
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Here's the deal

88 to 95% use IE,
More people surf the web using windows media player than opera and noone optimizes for windows media player,

so relax and worry about your load time.

60 % of users in the US use a 56K connection or slower, 70% of your traffic will leave before the page loads if it takes longer than 19 seconds.

Don't sweat the small stuff

Worry about how you are going to re-design in the dark. No stats means you have no idea what's going on. It means you have a bad case of the "I Thinks"

To qoute our company brochure ...lol

" we are professionals, with years of experience, thousands and thousands of dollars worth of equipment and software, to analyze, develop and market on the internet.
We will not use the words, "I think", in any meeting related to the development of an online marketing strategy. Recommendations must be based on accurate analysis of statistical data."
 
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Old 03-21-2005, 06:59 AM
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I use Internet Explorer, Netscape, Opera, FireFox, Mozilla and NeoPlanet.

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Old 03-21-2005, 08:29 AM
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This may be of use for Netscape/Mozilla.

http://sillydog.org/narchive/
 
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