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06-24-2006, 03:16 AM
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the alpha matrix one, the text can't be resized in my IE
The buttons are spaced out in IE too and not in FF.
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06-24-2006, 05:43 AM
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strange, what version?
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06-24-2006, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by kristeejo
"800 x 600 is accepted as the most popular screen resolution currently. In fact 800 x 600 is the default screen resolution for Windows and is generally not altered by PC users. Resent large-scale studies have shown that approximately 50% of web users use 800 x 600 resolution, while 25% use the higher 1024 x 768 resolution. The 640 x 480 resolution, traditionally thought of as the default video option, is in decline."
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Also have to disagree with that, 800x600 users are in the minority, that isn't to say designers should ignore them, I still personally design many sites at fixed width 770px. It seems from looking at sites such as CSS reboot that many designers are now designing fixed width for 1024x768, by placing the less important stuff in the far right of the design, these sites are still usable by 800x600 users though they will obviously get horizontal scroll bars. See this site for example
The W3C stats from Jan 2006 have 800x600 users at 20% of course there are exceptions, the best thing to do as kristeejo mentioned is to look at the stats for your own site.
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06-24-2006, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by paranoidandroid
Also have to disagree with that, 800x600 users are in the minority, that isn't to say designers should ignore them, I still personally design many sites at fixed width 770px. It seems from looking at sites such as CSS reboot that many designers are now designing fixed width for 1024x768, by placing the less important stuff in the far right of the design, these sites are still usable by 800x600 users though they will obviously get horizontal scroll bars. See this site for example
The W3C stats from Jan 2006 have 800x600 users at 20% of course there are exceptions, the best thing to do as kristeejo mentioned is to look at the stats for your own site.
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What the radiohead fan said. The standard is progressing beyond the small screeners.
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06-24-2006, 11:40 AM
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What the radiohead fan said. The standard is progressing beyond the small screeners.
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Note that those are not W3C stats, those are the stats for W3Schools. 20% is still huge, and if you add to the fact that most people visiting a site like W3Schools are more likely to have a higher resolution (because they are more computer-literate), the actual real-world percentage is much higher. Even still, would you throw out one fifth of your traffic?
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06-24-2006, 01:04 PM
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would you throw out one fifth of your traffic?
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As I said, design for the users of your site, if you get don't like the idea of having a narrow design go liquid - http://www.cssliquid.com/
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Note that those are not W3C stats
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Yes my mistake, w3 schools.
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06-24-2006, 02:12 PM
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It all depends on your audience, definitely. My audience tends to be around the university that I work for, meaning students and other educational institutions. These groups are definitely not 20% 600x800. Though I badly assume similar audiences for others, sorry.
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06-24-2006, 07:03 PM
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I agree about the audience, all the way. However there's always that rare chance...
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I'm doing a followup to this probably tomorrow or the day after that detailing other people's responces on other forums I've asked this question on.
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Erm, ahem. Yes, tomorrow or the next day indeed. It was going to go on yesterday, but I had a terrible case of writer's block.. So instead I posted this interview which was just sitting in my drafts in Wordpress. Today, however, I found myself much more capable of writing. Without further ado:
http://www.kevinjb.com/2006/06/24/80...s-and-the-web/
Let me know if I've missed anything or you disagree with anything I've said. 
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06-24-2006, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by LazyJim
strange, what version?
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Sorry i took a while...
IE 6.0.26
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06-25-2006, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by kristeejo
"800 x 600 is accepted as the most popular screen resolution currently. In fact 800 x 600 is the default screen resolution for Windows and is generally not altered by PC users. Resent large-scale studies have shown that approximately 50% of web users use 800 x 600 resolution, while 25% use the higher 1024 x 768 resolution. The 640 x 480 resolution, traditionally thought of as the default video option, is in decline."
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That's a copy and paste from the internet... that's why it's out of date.
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06-25-2006, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JuggoPop
That's a copy and paste from the internet... that's why it's out of date.
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yeah it is - found something quickly didn't realize it was ood, however, I do disagree that few are using a resolution of 800x600. Again, it only matters what the stats for your site are saying..
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06-25-2006, 08:45 AM
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that i agree with.
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