How long does it take to see decent money?

Tropics · 04-25-2007, 10:59 PM

Hi,

I am relatively new in Internet Marketing. I see all sorts of claims of people making a fortune just from the Net. I know this is all hype but what is the reasonable time before you can see some decent side income, something like $500 to 1,000 a month. Also, how long does it take before you build good traffic, something like 500 visits a day, without really spending on PPCs and just using other free Internet Marketing methods?

Thanks.

look4edmund · 04-26-2007, 12:23 PM

It depends on the IQ of a person.

A smart person would type "Make Money" on Google and there are probably thousand and one ways that teaches him how to make money.

Those with high IQ will start taking action. Those without it will always keep asking the same question.

Regards,
Edmund Ng

Tropics · 04-26-2007, 06:21 PM

Hi,

Thanks for your post but I am afraid that that is not really helpful.

Anybody who goes into Internet Marketing, as I am sure you know, goes into great lenghts to discover ways to make money o the Internet. It isn't a matter of having high or low IQ as you have suggested.

I am sure you are well aware of people who have "googled" and tried several ways to make money but they don't see it coming. The question is meant for people who have been there and done that and are willing to share their wisdom to newbies who are just looking for benchmarks, not sarcastic remarks. As with anything in life, there must be some law of averages in Internet Marketing.

And as an expert, you are well aware that Google SERPS aren't always reliable. Try typing Internet Marketing and tell me which one would be most reliable guide for a newbie. And I mean, GUARANTEED reliable. Everybody is trying to sell something to everybody and as a marketer myself, I know that all kinds of stuff can be embellished to the hilt.

That is why forums exist. So that the information shared has been pruned and given by people who have gone through the ropes, who have separated the grain from the shaft and is generous enough in thoughts and spirit so that newcomers will not make the same mistakes.

Rgds.

quantikev · 04-26-2007, 07:04 PM

Hello Tropics.

This is actually highly variable depending on the contents and topic of your website.

Factors like the popularity of your topic, level of profitability (is there a commercial market?), how often you add content, quality level of your content, and how much you promote it can all impact the time frame.

But to give you a basic idea, many now highly successful content producers and bloggers first noted regular return at around 6 months, and continued growth after this time.

Do you know the type, and topic, of the site you want to start? This is the first significant advice most successful online entrepreneurs will give you. Depending on the type of site you are creating, deciding this may be all you really need to get started.

What type of site did you have in mind?

Kevin

factoring · 04-26-2007, 07:09 PM

Tropics,

There are millions of ways to make money on the internet, be creative and find your niche. Do something you love and have a passion for.

I believe you are referring to seo instead of ppc.

Optimization in itself takes years to master. If you can find a niche that isn't already flooded with other seo's, then you will make more money that you could dream of.

Thanks

Andrew

**cldnails** · 04-27-2007, 01:48 PM

In all fairness, it's hard to get a benchmark on this question merely because those making serious cash don't share it on public forums....generally. All you could possibly get is responses from people like me who only know how long it took me to reach those figures.

10 months, part/part time.

engadven · 04-27-2007, 03:46 PM

I read once that if your site is ranked in the to 100000 in Alexa then you can make a living from it from Google adds. Obviously the type of site and cost of keywords in that area make a big difference but it seemed reasonable to me.
I've a site ranked reguarly around 500000 that makes me half a living from product sales.

**cldnails** · 04-27-2007, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by engadven

I read once that if your site is ranked in the to 100000 in Alexa then you can make a living from it from Google adds. Obviously the type of site and cost of keywords in that area make a big difference but it seemed reasonable to me.
I've a site ranked reguarly around 500000 that makes me half a living from product sales.

Gross generalization that is can be the difference between ramen noodles and caviar.

guyfox · 04-29-2007, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tropics

Hi,

I am relatively new in Internet Marketing. I see all sorts of claims of people making a fortune just from the Net. I know this is all hype but what is the reasonable time before you can see some decent side income, something like $500 to 1,000 a month. Also, how long does it take before you build good traffic, something like 500 visits a day, without really spending on PPCs and just using other free Internet Marketing methods?

Thanks.

How long does it take a drugstore to earn a profit?
Answer would be that it depends upon advertising, marketing, deals, customers, locality, maintenance....

The same applies for websites. Traffic and other stats are just one of many indicators of possible success.

The only way to find out is to try it - when you get up to 1000 uniques a day, your site will assume a character of its own due to choices you make along the way - then you have to flow with it and adapt it to start making something out of it. Just so you get something out of my comments - keep the site ad free till you hit the 300 visitors a day mark and, say, a PR4. Not having ads will help you develop a community around your site - if it is one of those blogs or forums that demand a community.

Tropics · 04-29-2007, 10:11 PM

Hi,

Thanks for all your advice.

Cheers,

Tropics.

ianternet · 04-30-2007, 11:41 AM

it all depends - for me it took me 4 months for me to see my first dollar - because I have been doing research and learning more and more

charlesgan · 05-08-2007, 06:01 AM

lol.. guys, lets encourage the new comer, and welcom him to v7n.
indead, you some of us here made fortune...

i heard john scott is gross 50k on the best month.

smith · 05-09-2007, 01:31 AM

$500 to 1,000 a month. is not easy to reach with your own new site, you need to spend a lot of time and see your money earn start from few cent to few dollar and more....
try to learn a huge number of tricks in this forum.
good luck

waffles · 05-09-2007, 07:28 AM

Maybe if you want to write a blog and go through some of those reviewing places that let you set your own price. I mean, I've made about 80 USD just in the past couple days from various things, but I know that's nothing to live off of.

**John Scott** · 05-09-2007, 07:33 AM

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Also, how long does it take before you build good traffic, something like 500 visits a day, without really spending on PPCs and just using other free Internet Marketing methods?

I'd recommend you stop what you are doing and go back to working offline.

This attitude of "don't spend money" is not a good one to run a business. Legitimate businesses spend money. Marketing is part of business, and you will of course be beaten to a pulp by your more business-oriented competition who know that spending money is all good.

**cldnails** · 05-09-2007, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by John Scott

I'd recommend you stop what you are doing and go back to working offline.

This attitude of "don't spend money" is not a good one to run a business. Legitimate businesses spend money. Marketing is part of business, and you will of course be beaten to a pulp by your more business-oriented competition who know that spending money is all good.

Really?

See, the way I figure it is that everyone needs to start somewhere and that does not always mean in the back pocket. My most successful revenue earning site cost me nothing more than domain registration and a shared hosting account.

waffles · 05-09-2007, 08:52 AM

And I'm doing some stuff right now that costs nothing more than the domain. You probably won't get enough to live off of without spending money, but you can get some nice play around money.

Dustin07 · 05-09-2007, 04:53 PM

You can make $500/month within 3 months. Actually, you can make $1,000 a month within 3 months. I did. no biggy.

register some blogs. If you dont' want to spend any money then bust your ass building backlinks via exchanges, directory submissions, or sexual favors.

There are a number of blog services that will except new "PR0" blogs for paid blogging. reinvest those dollars to buy more links.

after 3-4 months of building links and content and using the smaller supplemental blogging services available, hopefully... if you have worked... you will have achieved a decent PR on your blog and you will be excepted into larger blogging services such as payperpost.com, linkworth.com, contextual.v7n.com, reviewme, etc. Then you'll make $500-1000/month... no problem.

If blogging is not the way you intend to go, you can download the AOM script at associate-o-matic.com and build a niche Amazon.com site. without much issue these sites can get up to $100+/month each. Build 5 of them and you are at $500/month again. Within 2 months if you work it.

Sell them. reinvest the profits into more links and new stores or new blogs and start over again, but go bigger.

rinse and repeat.

I hope that answers your question... in depth.

**John Scott** · 05-09-2007, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cldnails

Really?

See, the way I figure it is that everyone needs to start somewhere and that does not always mean in the back pocket. My most successful revenue earning site cost me nothing more than domain registration and a shared hosting account.

How much more would be made if you had invested some money?

photocrats.com · 05-09-2007, 07:34 PM

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This attitude of "don't spend money" is not a good one to run a business. Legitimate businesses spend money. Marketing is part of business, and you will of course be beaten to a pulp by your more business-oriented competition who know that spending money is all good.

I always tell others the same thing but they don't want to believe.